Wednesday, January 13, 2016

Aging Isn't Just Physical

Every now and then, someone comes along who calls society on its B.S. These people aren't afraid to stand up for themselves in a very public way. It helps if those people are highly-respected celebrities...like this woman:



As Carrie Fisher said, she did something no famous actress is allowed to do. She got older. Over the years, she has dealt with a constant stream of comments to the effect of, "What happened to her? She was so beautiful in the Star Wars movies." Basically, she was supposed to look like this until she turned 100 and died.



Recently Carrie was forced to lose weight to appear in the most recent Star Wars movie. She was thin, but it still wasn't enough. Fans were shocked that the 59-year-old actress looked like this:



Of course, nobody really cared that Harrison Ford now looks like this:



And Mark Hamill looks like this:



It was all about Princess Leia. The big difference between Carrie Fisher and most other actresses who were popular in the 70s is that she's remained in the spotlight. She's done so because she's one smart, talented woman. She writes and produces and measures a person's worth by far more than the way they look.



Unfortunately, many others aren't that way. After dealing with weeks of commentary on Twitter, Carrie Fisher finally spoke up in late December. She tweeted:



In later days she added that her body is her brain bag. It carries her around to where she needs to go. She's a talented, accomplished person who happens to allow herself to be photographed and filmed occasionally. But mostly, she's just amazing. Which makes this meme, posted by one of her fans in response to one of her tweets, all that much more powerful:



Do you think society is too judgmental about our aging celebrities?

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  1. I think it's just a shock when we haven't seen anyone for a long time and we suddenly realize they are getting older.
    Some people just age faster. Fisher had a rough life with drugs and alcohol and that's going to take its toll. I think my wife was more shocked than I was, especially by her voice.

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    1. That is true. Christie Brinkley seems to have found the fountain of youth, but she didn't do ANYTHING unhealthy. I'm still shocked when I see Chevy Chase. It just makes me realize how much time has passed.

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    2. But we have seen her. She's been on talk shows, made guest appearances on sitcoms (The Big Bang Theory most recently). She hasn't been invisible and she actually looked better in this movie than she did the last time I saw her on TV.

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    3. I agree with that Renee--I was thinking about that earlier today. I've seen her every step of the way so it surprises me that so many Star Wars fans are surprised that she looks older. At least once a year, I see her somewhere, whether it's a guest appearance or in the news for something she's promoting. I think her feeling on it is--I'm not going to become some reclusive author/screenwriter because I don't conform to some public standard of what a female celebrity should look like. It will, unfortunately, take years of women doing what Carrie Fisher does and aging publicly for people to finally accept that not every female star wants to do what Jennifer Aniston does--live for working out and starving themselves because the public feels "that's what an actress's job is. To look good."

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  2. I don't thinks society is judgmental. They are ridiculous. If they are lucky they will get older.

    Being older, I get you don't have a lot of choice in how you age. Cavanaugh is right in how you care for your body affects your aging, but there are factors out of your control. We are a youth oriented society and with Photoshop the next generation in the media may be treated crueler.

    Carrie Fisher is six months younger than I, and believe me, she looks good for 59.

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    1. I saw a show once where the main character had cancer and she said, "Aging is a privilege." I liked that way of looking at things! Not everyone is lucky enough to live to see that age.

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  3. She remained in the spotlight? I haven't seen her in thirty years or so LOL
    Harrison is like 100 or so, yes? :) I think the problem is that people remembered her as kind of a sex symbol or something and once you present yourself that way, the public will not forgive you getting old. That is why Meryl Streep or Judi Dench have no such problem, they never based their image on their bodies. The same for Ian McKellen or Patrick Stewart, nobody will ever tell them you look very old because they have depth... but everybody will jump at Clooney or Brad Pitt (who just got a fresh botox treatment and looks hilarious), because they have only looks :)

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    1. Oh yeah...she's had multiple bestsellers and has spent the past 20 years or so doing uncredited screenwriting work. I believe she's what's known as a "script doctor"--they bring people like her in to fix scripts that aren't working. She wrote Rene Russo's dialogue in Lethal Weapon 3, for instance. The woman is very smart and talented. Postcards from the Edge was based on (I believe?) her first bestseller. Beyond the fact that she's accomplished all of that, though, is the big difference she is making in pointing out the double standard that still exists between men and women. But you're right on depth...the difference with Carrie Fisher is that her depth is offscreen. She doesn't appear to me to be the type of person who cares all that much about being on camera. And yeah, some of these male actors are just sad. They keep getting plastic surgery until they look like clowns...John Travolta, for instance.

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  4. I think society is way too judgmental about how everyone looks and celebrities, because they're in the spotlight, get hit on the worst. See, Carrie was supposed to have a face lift and lipo and plastic surgery and whatever so that she'd continue to look like Princess Leia forever. Like that's realistic. I think Carrie looks great and age appropriate.

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    1. She did all that when she lost weight a few years ago and everyone gave her crap about her plastic surgery. For someone who doesn't care about her looks, it has to be frustrating because she's photographed all the time.

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  5. I mostly ignored the discussion, but personally I thought she looked fantastic in the new movie. I also thought Harrison and Mark looked great (I have a thing for Harrison, anyway).

    I lost a lot of respect for Carrie, though, when she thought it was her business to "out" John Travolta (whether what she said is true, I don't know, but it wasn't her place). So, I kind of feel like she doesn't have the moral high ground here, but in a big-picture way she has a good point.

    Anyway, I'm not sure why people expected her to look like a 20-year-old still. If I look half that good when I'm her age, I'll be thrilled. It was her voice that threw me, but that would be from the years of drugs and alcohol, I suppose.

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    1. Wait...is John Travolta out? I thought he was outed when he kissed that man. I think it's sad that actors feel like they have to live a lie because they were relevant back when actors were supposed to hide such things. It's 2016, John! You be you!

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    2. No, he isn't. He's still married to Kelly Preston. He has never, ever said he was gay and I don't know that he is and I'm not going to assume until he says so.

      Carrie Fisher overstepped her bounds.

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    3. I didn't think he was out. I missed Carrie Fisher outing him...I only knew about it from the pictures of him kissing that man. It's really none of my business whether he is or isn't (nor is it anyone else's), I just think it's a shame that some actors still hold to a mid-1900s system that forced actors to marry and have kids to put on a front when, IMHO, that isn't what the 2000s are about. Yet another actor came out just this week--it was trending on Facebook. Jim Parsons doesn't feel the need to hide, nor does that actor who played Spock in the Star Trek movies. I want to see a big mega-movie star come out. It's just ridiculous for anyone to have to hide what they are and involve a wife and kids in it when so much more of society now accepts it than did during John Travolta's heyday.

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  6. I imagine it's only the young who criticize aging. For some reason I remember as a teenager feeling sorry for an older woman who passed me on the street and looked sad and for some reason I thought it was because she was old. Why that stuck in my mind, I don't know. At 77 I wouldn't want anyone feeling sorry for me for the way I look. I consider it a privilege to have lived this long. My Mom used to say, "Getting old is hell!" I heard her elderly Father remind her once, "Yes, Martha....but the alternative isn't appealing either." :)

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    1. I only hope to live to my 70s, 80s...maybe 90s? Not sure about that last one! I do think about it when I go to the doctor and the waiting areas are filled with seniors. I remember at 16 hearing the song "Celebrate Youth" by Rick Springfield and thinking the lyrics were sad somehow, even though it was meant to be upbeat. The overall point of the song is that no matter what age you are, there's someone older than you envying you.

      I can see the older man
      Looking at the younger man
      I can see the younger man
      Looking at the boy
      'Cause every man sees
      In the younger man the hope
      And every woman sees
      In the younger girl the dream

      Who knew Rick Springfield could be deep?!

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  7. While I am not surprised that people were judging in full force I actually thought she looked pretty good. We saw her at a con in the not so distant past and she looked much better in the movie than she did then. Society has very unrealistic ideas of how aging works and all the Botox and plastic surgery that celebrities get play into that. When in reality one should be happy to stay healthy as they get older no matter how their appearance may change.

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    1. Hollywood has given us an ideal that's impossible to meet for normal people. And if your job is based on your looks like those who are on TV, it makes sense to do crazy things like a billion plastic surgeries to try to look as good as possible. I'm sure there are many middle-aged actresses who live in fear of dealing with what Carrie Fisher is dealing with now. So they spend their lives in the gym and pay a fortune in surgeries. For the average person, that kind of obsessive struggle to stay young is seen as shallow and possibly even a little crazy. Mostly because one would hope that by that age someone has a little something more going for him/herself than physical appearance. In Hollywood, it's about getting work, so it is considered a little more "normal." Carrie Fisher is just in a weird spot because her success is more cerebral, yet she can't seem to get herself away from that camera...

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  8. I thought she looked like a woman of her age. Shock-horror. Like she cares what I think. I'm glad I'm not famous and am able to let my hair go grey without anyone giving a damn.

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    1. I'd like to believe that Carrie Fisher doesn't care what anyone else thinks. I'd like to believe it...but she publicly addressed it and it seems to bug her. I watched an interview where the very pretty reporter asked Carrie about losing weight for the role and she just kept deflecting the question back to the reporter in a humorous way, saying things like, "How do YOU look like this? Do you work out? Do you really enjoy it?" Which I found an interesting way to handle it...I could tell that she just doesn't get the shallowness of it all. It is outside of her understanding why her physical appearance is so important to everyone because she feels her value is elsewhere...and that, I think is what makes her such a good role model!

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  9. Oh, Stephanie, yes and so much more. Society has made women feel as if they have to be beautiful, size 2, oh no, it used to be size 2, now it's size 0. I grew up when voluptuous women like Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell were the norm. Yeah for Carrie Fisher for speaking the truth. Finally. It's about time women could let go about how they look and focus on who they are and the kind of human being they want to be.

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    1. It's funny you say that--someone said something recently that stuck with me. It was on TV, I think? She said the reason everyone in Hollywood has to get so much plastic surgery is that they're all so darn skeletal. When you have no fat at all in your face, you look even worse as you get older. Not that that's an argument for gaining a bunch of weight...just that size 0 or size 2 is not a natural state for a person once they get to middle age...and the face doesn't handle it all that well.

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  10. I thought she looked pretty much as I expected for a gal her age. Actually, she looks better than most. Some people age gracefully and then some just age. As I get older, I see what a gift getting to my age and getting older is. No guarantees and all. I'm glad to see the older generation on film.

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    1. What was sad to me was hearing Olivia Newton-John sing. She's had too much plastic surgery, too. I loved her as a kid--looked up to her so much. And I think even though she's lived a healthy lifestyle, she for some reason felt the need to do that to her face. But her voice isn't quite there. (I believe some have said the same about Paul McCartney.) Losing our looks is one thing but when someone had such an incredible voice at a young age and then one day, poof, it's gone, that's sad to me because it's a loss of an incredible talent.

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  11. Recently I've spent a lot of time thinking "where did the time go? How can 30 or more years have gone since high school, marriage, etc." So seeing Carrie Fisher in Star Wars, aging like we all do, and seeing the scene where she sees Harrison Ford after who knows how many years kind of hit me "that's life; we live it, we live it hard a lot of times, and when we are living it we don't realize we really are getting older, until we look in the mirror and then wondering where did it all go?"

    betty

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    1. The biggest shocker to me, as I mentioned above, was Chevy Chase. When he suddenly appeared in Community and he was the elderly gentleman, YIKES. I grew up watching him on TV and in movies. Even though he was always older than me, it was the same thing you're talking about--not about him at all. About ME and the awareness it brought that so much time had passed, Chevy Chase had gone from a 30-year-old to one of those guys you see getting the senior discount next to you in a restaurant.

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  12. Hi Stephanie, it's me again. Here's a recent article from New York Times on this very subject. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/opinion/sunday/when-can-women-stop-trying-to-look-perfect.html?mwrsm=Email

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    1. I'll check it out. I love it already from the title!

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  13. Yes, she has aged, but don't we all? And its really too bad that social media concentrated on that to the point it hurt her feelings.

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    1. It actually wasn't, as someone mentioned above, people who were "young" who were complaining about it. Young people don't really care how old Carrie Fisher is because over 40 is old to them. It's the people my age (40s) who grew up watching that and, guess what? We're not getting any younger, either!

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  14. Celebrities are just people like us. They get to be seen in public and are subject to criticism. They age just like all of us. I think Carrie is real and not artificially made up. I didn't see the movie but time leaves it marks on the body wether we are paying attention or not.

    I look at myself in the mirror and at some pictures when i was younger and I think I aged well. My personal opinion, ;) lol...
    Hugs,
    JB

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    1. I think you look great! I do feel that physical appearance gets much less important as we age. We care more about getting to know someone's personality. I've gotten to the point where I dread getting my hair cut because every salon is filled with vapid 20-somethings who talk like valley girls. I've had to search for hair stylists my own age to make it bearable!

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  15. Whether we accept it or not, we all age. Celebrities are humans too. Most people are afraid to grow old. And I know many want to look young and took great measures to avoid looking old. My personal opinion is let's grow old gracefully.

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    1. I once worked with a woman who was a complete idiot. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with her. At some point I said, "I'll bet she used to be beautiful when she was younger and everyone catered to her and now she's older and her looks are gone and she's left with nothing else." Years later, I was working with someone who worked more closely with her than I did and he said yes, she was very attractive when she was younger because he'd seen a picture of her. You have to work on having something more going for you than looks!

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  16. I didn't have any issues with her age. In fact, she's exactly what I expected when I saw the movie. I hate that plastic look Hollywood purports as "normal."

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    1. I know...the lips. Why do they all have to have fish lips? I don't get it. I heard a 20-something woman say she was getting Botox because she "likes that Barbie forehead." That is becoming the new normal...that generation can have it. At least we grew up in a time when foreheads that wrinkled when we lifted our eyebrows were normal!

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  17. I just had a birthday [let's leave it that, please ;-)] and don't feel so old :-)

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    1. I'll be 46 this year and I don't care! I usually line my doctors appointments up around my birthday because the entire experience reminds me how lucky we are to get to turn a year older each year.

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  18. That quote from Bhagavad Gita was awesome.
    I wonder What is the problem with ageing gracefully? It is interesting to note that it is women who are hypercritical to this ageing thing than men and almost always they comment about other women.
    Most celebrities, men and women included, try to look younger and beyond a certain age they look pathetic. But those who are well grounded look graceful, age does not seem to affect them. They are evergreen :)
    Very interesting post...

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    1. I agree...just age naturally. I get that Hollywood doesn't allow for that, which is a shame. But I think people tend to go to the movies and obsess about celebrities more when they're younger...and young people want to see their peers and slightly older. I know once I reached my 30s, I started losing interest in what was going on at the movies and started paying more attention to the real world!

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  19. I didn't find anything wrong with her. Or any actor getting old. We all age. When my husband says of some celebrity who is about his age, "Man, he's getting old." I always have to come back to him and say, "So are you."

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    1. I think for all of us, when we say "Man, he's getting old," it often is reminding ourselves of the passage of time. We don't notice aging so much in the people we see every day but when time passes for some reason we assume actors are going to stay the same as they were the last time we saw them. Perhaps because we can turn on the TV and see them as they were 20 years ago at any moment? I'm sure in Carrie Fisher's case, more than half the people who saw her in that movie had just re-watched all the original Star Wars movies.

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  20. I think she's wonderful. I totally agree that society is too hard on women aging. Clearly most folks still don't look on the inside for beauty.

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    1. And I think that says more about the people saying bad things about her. I'm still surprised how many Star Wars fans don't realize she's done much more with her life than play Princess Leia. I mean...Postcards from the Edge? Her life story??? How did they miss that?

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  21. Haha omg people need to get over it! She looks great. This is exactly why these Hollywood women think they need all the plastic surgery and they end up looking like botched blowup dolls.

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    1. I know...the public loves to make fun of them but if they don't get plastic surgery, people talk about them. I think celebrities like Bridget Fonda and Phoebe Cates who walk away from that life probably have the right idea. Just disappear!

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  22. I love Carrie Fisher. I was so glad when she stood up to those trolls. I do think our society puts too much pressure on us, especially women, to look a certain age and not age. I think if we are healthy (because that is what is most important) we should celebrate our growing greys, bumps, wrinkles etc!

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  23. She wasn't exactly the most beautiful starlet back in the 70's and 80's, and I've seen her every now and then in something from the 90s to now and I wasn't shocked to see what she looked like in the new star wars.

    We all will eventually get old. But some age better than others. I think Dawn Wells and Barbara Eden look pretty good considering how old they are.

    Though I will say I saw Lori Loughlin in a recent TV movie my wife watched and saw the photos of her in Fuller House, and she looks almost exactly how she did when Full House was on the air. She's 51 currently.

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    1. OMG to Lori Loughlin. She's one of the ones I've been astounded by lately but I couldn't remember today. How on Earth can she possibly still look like that? I want her secret! I'm sure there's at least a little plastic surgery, as there is with Cindy Crawford and Christie Brinkley--but it's GOOD plastic surgery and you can tell all three of them stay healthy and take care of themselves, which makes a big difference. Alcoholism and drug addiction take a lot out of a person.

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  24. Yes, I think society is way too judgmental about a lot of things, and women seem to get the brunt of these judgements. I think she's beautiful and yes she's talented. If you aren't young and have the perfect body then you're a has been. It's pitiful if you ask me.

    Excellent post.

    Have a fabulous day. ☺

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    1. It is sad, although I'm glad it mostly applies in show business, which is far from the most important profession. I think in many other industries, good looks can hurt a woman in many ways, sadly. It can get in the way of her being taken seriously.

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    2. And make other women hate her...

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  25. Oh yes, definitely. And Carrie Fisher still looks pretty good. It's that whole culture that looks at appearances only. That's why I tend to ignore that section of the media when I can.

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    1. I would have missed all the talk on Carrie Fisher if she hadn't addressed it. Apparently most of it was on social media.

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  26. Absolutely. But I don't think it's just Hollywood. It's hard for a woman to age period, let alone gracefully.

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    1. True, although hopefully our loved ones don't mind that we're getting older...at least not as much as the public seems to mind movie stars getting older.

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  27. Society is too judgemental about women's appearance generally. Celebrities are perhaps the first target, but it flows through to the rest of us.
    I am pretty certain than anorexia/bulemia are started with those expectations.

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    1. I agree...I think there are a lot of eating issues going on in Hollywood. And some actors/actresses start doing drugs to stay thin.

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  28. The next step will be actresses flat out refusing to work under certain conditions on a larger scale. Rose McGowan did it when she refused to audition for Pixels after receiving a very condescending note essentially telling her that she should 'read the script', a step by step provocative dress breakdown and overall disrespectful way to treat a professional actress. While I agree with speaking out sometimes it becomes a bit white noise and Rose's act of essentially telling them to f' off was quite refreshing. She even lost an agent for speaking out on Twitter but she took it in stride and I'm proud of her.

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    1. Good for her! I can't remember the specifics of the story on Tori Spelling and whatever Scary Movie she was in...but basically she was a major player in the film originally but when she refused to do the nude scene, they cut most of her parts out of the movie. That's the story she tells anyway. It sounded to me like they just wanted her for the "come see our movie--we have Tori Spelling naked" factor and without that, they realized, "Wow, her acting kinda sucks and this movie is going to suck if we don't get her out of it!"

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  29. Your question is an understatement to the Nth degree! They have always told actresses to lose weight. Judy Garland was a cute girl but, when she started making the Wizard of Oz, the studio wanted her to slim down so they gave her pills and when she couldn't sleep because of those pills, they gave her pills to sleep. Thus began to descent into pills and booze. Marilyn Monroe is still considered sexy but she was, at one point, a size 14. I feel it has gotten worse. If you look at the female stars of yesteryear, they had work done but they still looked their age. Now we say Brava to Jane Fonda who wants to keep looking like she is 40 when she is closer to 80. The magazines in stores show stars and there is so much computer work done to smooth things out that they look plastic. Now, stars who are way too thin are glorified for having great bodies while stars who are too fat are called curvy. The star who is at a healthy weight and may be a size 10 to 14 are blasted and ridiculed. Something is very wrong. I always loved Carrie Fisher who has one brilliant mind I think and good for her for standing up to all the crap

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    1. I didn't know that about Judy Garland, but I think even today there are many drug addictions that start in H'wood due to that pressure to stay thin. And it's even worse in the modeling world, where women are prized if they can make the clothes hang on them the way they hang on hangers!

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    2. It's a myth about Marilyn - she'd actually be considered a size 8, 6 or smaller today. It's because sizing is completely different now than it was in the 1950s.

      She was 5 ft. 5.5 inches tall with a 35-inch bust; 22-inch waist (approximately 2-3 inches less than the average American woman in the 1950s and 12 inches less than average today); and 35-inch hips, with a bra size of 36D. Her weight fluctuated a bit through her career, usually rising in times of depression and falling back to her normal thereafter, but her dressmaker listed her as 118 pounds and the Hollywood studios tended to list her between 115-120 lbs.

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  30. Yes!! Society is very judgmental when it comes to movie stars. My daughter used to live in Hollywood and hated the fakeness of it all. Be real . No one looks that young at 65, why do people expect female movie stars to be ageless...I loved Carrie in the new Star Wars. She's lovely!!

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    1. I've always heard that about Hollywood. I can't imagine. We visited and I didn't get that, but you can't get the real Hollywood as a tourist.

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  31. Carrie Fisher looks GORGEOUS! And she's right, it ain't all about looks. But what happened to Mark Hammill? Yikes! Smiles.

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    1. I know, right? To be fair, I know his face was disfigured in a car accident, but that was back in the late 70s/80s after Star Wars but before at least one of the two sequels. So his face changed when he was young. The beard and mustache cover that up, though. Here are some before/afters:

      http://www.shawnsmallstories.com/wp-content/uploads/lukebeforeandafter.jpg

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  32. Society is very judgemental. That's showbiz and might explain all the plastic surgery.

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  33. I was baffled by the people who judged Carrie Fischer. It's ridiculous!

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  34. I think most definitely there is a double standard when it comes to actors and actresses. Man can be as old as he wants and no one bats an eye when he has eye candy one half to one third his age on his arm. Woman can't be older than 30 with eye candy on her arm, otherwise, social media goes ga-ga.

    Father Nature's Corner

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  35. It's the young, both genders, and older men who judge aging women. I like how she called her body a brain bag. We are so much more than our looks.

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  36. Carrie is a lovely lady. Brave too. It's a shame the way society treats "older" women. Too much emphasis is placed on a person's looks. We should look at the person's character and heart. There's where the beauty lies. Great post, Stephanie.

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  37. Our society is too judgmental about almost everything except the important parts that need attention. Carrie Fisher is a brilliant writer, hilariously funny, and an excellent actress.

    Love,
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  38. "Do you think society is too judgmental about our aging celebrities?"

    Definitely! And the ripples from it affect all of us (women). At my 40th reunion, the first thing I noticed when I walked into the hall was that most of the women had hair the same color as high school, and all the men were gray or bald. A few of the women looked really great but most (like me) had put on a few pounds and were kidded about it by the (also pudgy) men.

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  39. I think society is too judgmental about everything. But...I think the celebrities who get a lot of work done make the natural celebrities look older. Maybe we should be judging the celebrities made of plastic!

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  40. I would love to get a look at some of the trolls on social media who made comments about her looks because I am betting very few of them are beauty contestant material.

    Having turned 50 last year, I had to face the fact that I will never again look like I did at 30 or 40. Not even cosmetic surgery is going to bring back my youth, and I wish that I had believed myself pretty when I was 30 and 40 because looking back at photos now, I know I was too hard on myself then.

    I suppose that by that example, I am too hard on myself now according to my future 60-year-old self.

    Getting older IS a privilege that not everybody has. My father-in-law was fond of saying: The alternative to getting old is dying young.

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  41. I was very upset to read people complaining about how she didn't "age well". What do these people think happens when a person gets older? what do they think is going to happen to them? Personally, out of the three original celebrities appearing in the film, I think she looked the best. But I'd never criticize someone one how they aged. It's something that's happening to us all. I give Carrie a lot of credit for posting that tweet.

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  42. As my mom always says, we are lucky if we get wrinkles and age because it means we get to live a long life. It's not something to be ashamed of. Think of all the people who don't get to that point in life.

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  43. "Puddles deeper than you..." Love that! I always likened vintage people to dearly beloved libraries; where extensive treasure troves of amazing facts and entertaining fictions are kept. Someone once said "You got old," as if it were an infraction of the rules. "Yes," I said, "and I hope you do too!" We should all be so lucky:-)

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  44. Excellent post. Time marches on. I'm so glad to have the opportunity to experience each stage of life. I think Carrie is celebrating every part of her life too. I notice my own age when I see some of the guys who were hunks in the 60's and 70's not quite as sexy as they used to be. LOL But they overcome that age-aura once they start rockin' on stage and bring back our youthful memories and that kid that will always dwell within us.

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  45. What a great post! I saw the movie and thought she looked fabulous, but it isn't about that anyway. Carrie is a smart, talented woman and it is sad that we judge women so much differently than men. Your points about the male actors were well made. Thanks for this post!

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  46. Great post! I think that society is too judgmental about two things: aging and mental illness.

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  48. Great post, and I'm glad Carrie Fisher called the trolls on their ridiculous attitudes.

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  49. Oh yes! I believe society is the main cause of depression cases found within the celebrity community. It's so tragic! I can't imagine the amount of pressure they have to deal with living up to the status qua.

    We should shed more light on Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill, they've certainly aged a lot!

    If you ask me, I think Carrie Fisher is stunning.

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  50. A million times YES!

    And on the flip side, when a celebrity gets terrible plastic surgery, we're also horribly judgmental about THAT.

    "Why didn't she just let herself age naturally?" people whine. Well, this shit Carrie Fisher has to put up with is why. We have to stop valuing women strictly for the way they look.

    Fisher has probably regretted that slave girl scene every since.

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  51. YES! I love how we all get to age naturally. This is a privilege. I've recently discovered how much I enjoy looking at an actor/actress's eye wrinkles whenever they laugh or smile.

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  52. WEll, I thought she looked lovely. Her personality shines through and all I see is an intelligent and successful woman who loves life. Good for her!

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  53. Judgmental, they are!

    I hope I look as great and feel as great. It wouldn't hurt to have her money as well. lol

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  54. It was a wonderful movie and it is too bad that more people didn't focus on the fact that it portrayed women as being strong and in control. We are very judgmental people.

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  55. In 1977, Mark Hamill was in a car accident that broke his nose and his cheekbone. I think it's been showing as he's been getting older.

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  56. In 1977, Mark Hamill was in a car accident that broke his nose and his cheekbone. I think it's been showing as he's been getting older.

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